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Contents 1 The Changing Face of Digital Photography - Jerry Schneir 2 About k-Byte 4 Windows Vista on the Cusp-A Perspective on Vista - Jan Fagerholm 6 Calendar of Events 7 January/February Calendars 8 Changing Hard Drives - Richard Kennon 10 Member Benefit You Need to Know About 10 FRPCUG Election Results 10 Trading Post 12 Tip of the Month - Scott Dunn 12 Map to Meeting Place 12 FRPCUG Contacts it's the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning." - Mark Twain by Jerry Schneir, a Member of the Los Angeles Computer Society. jerrynrita(at)verizon.net. http://www.lacspc.org When Canon first introduced their dSLR - the Digital Rebel (EOS-300D) in 2003, it was an earthshaking event insofar as digital photography went. They broke the $1000 barrier and allowed rank amateurs to enjoy (and to be frustrated) by dSLR. Up to that time digital SLRs were priced well above $1500 and if you wanted something a little bit more advanced, it could easily cost $3,000 or more, and more was the operative word. Then along came Nikon, Minolta, Olympus and Pentax with dSLR cameras all priced south of $1,000. Now, be prepared for dSLR cameras just slightly more than $500 and with features that rival their semi-professional big brothers, and in some cases features their big brothers do not have, such as image stabilization built into the camera itself and not the lens. Last year and this we have seen mergers and cooperative efforts between big camera and electronic companies. Look at Sony taking over Konica-Minolta and producing the Alpha 100 (priced at $999); Olympus and Panasonic merging technologies and producing a whole line of very different cameras at a wide variety of prices ($699 all the way to $1999 for the Panasonic). Then Pentax/Samsung introduced a whole range of cameras from $400 to $800 (street price with and without lens). And now, along comes Canon with their new 10MP Digital Rebel XTi with a host of interesting features at a very attractive price of $799. Nikon also announced their new D80. Other lower priced models are sure to follow. If one is to believe all the hoopla, digital SLRs are selling big time and most manufacturers think they will outsell the point and shoot variety (those with 4x or less of optical zoom) within a few years. And now comes the dilemma for those who still have their film SLRs and collections of lenses, what to do, what camera to buy? Just because you have three or four good lenses for your SLR doesn't justify buying the same brand just so you can use your existing lenses. First off, you may NOT be able to use your existing lenses in a digital camera of the same brand (lens mount). If some of your existing lenses are 3rd party lenses, i.e., lenses made by Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc. they may or may not work well or at all with the digital SLR version. Sigma lenses from 5+ years ago have a tendency to produce the dreaded ERR099 message when placed on a Canon digital SLR. These lenses must be updated by Sigma. A new chip has to be installed in the lens. Unfortunately, Sigma may not have the chips needed so you may be out of luck. If you are buying a camera because you have lenses that will fit it, make sure they work. Bring ALL of your lenses to the store and try them in the camera, turn the camera on and go through all the shooting modes. And then there is the "focal length multiplier" problem. On most Canon cameras the multiplier is 1.6. Thus a 50mm normal film lens becomes an 80mm lens, a 75-200mm zoom lens becomes a 120-320mm lens, and a nice wide-angle 24-50 zoom becomes a not so interesting 38-80mm zoom. On most Pentax and Nikon brands the multiplier is 1.5 while on the Olympus/Panasonic the factor is 2x. This writer thinks that Panasonic misread the photo market with the $1999 camera. I think we shall see a much more attractively priced camera from them under $1000, probably around $800. Panasonic as well as Sony have a strong vested interest in not producing SLR cameras in the $500-$800 range since they already make a number of very nice SLR style cameras with large zooms and real dSLRs would cannibalize that market. Canon and Nikon both make very expensive image stabilized (shake reduction) lenses and may be loath to produce a camera with built in image stabilization such as being done by Sony, Olympus/Panasonic, and Pentax/Samsung. So, what is a prospective buyer to do? In my case it was easy. I had already sold all my film and dSLR cameras along with their lenses (e-Bay) so I was starting from scratch. I knew that I wanted image stabilization (I.S.). I had tried it on the Canon S2 IS and loved it. I also knew that Pentax/Samsung was bringing out an image stabilization system based upon sensor compensation rather than the lens. The Sony/Minolta system is similar. This meant that all the lenses for those cameras became image stabilized, you could easily get by with far less expensive lenses and the total package would not break the bank. Then there is the question of overkill. Do you buy a camera with features you will rarely if ever use, or even have occasion to use? Is it really necessary to have a camera shoot 5 frames per second over one that only does 2.5? What about 10MP versus only 6MP? How many shots can you get in a burst, 2.5, 5 or10, and how many are really needed? There is very little actual difference in the images taken with a $3,000 and a $500 camera. Do you need a camera with a 150,000 MTBF (mean time between failure) shutter cycle versus one with only an 80,000? The $500 to $800 cameras available today easily rival the $5,000 cameras used three or four years ago, and in many respects they are better. In my case, I read the ads and found a Pentax *1stDL (6.1MP) on sale at Samy's with a boatload of extras, very usable and worthwhile extras, extras I would have bought in any case. The camera was advertised for $549 (including 18-55 lens) and had a $100 rebate from Pentax which brought the cost down to $449. The freebies (SLIK tripod, 1 GB chip, 300 digital photos, and case) were worth about $150, so my net cost was about $300. No, the camera doesn't have I.S. but Pentax/Samsung just introduced their K100D/Digimax GX-1S (6.1MP - $600 -$700 street price) which does have I.S. and will soon have a K10D (10MP) also with I.S. The DL will become my backup camera when I buy the I.S. version. Of course, should I decide to, I could probably sell the DL for close to what I have invested in it, but in the meantime I have had the pleasure (and some minor frustration) of using it, a really nice dSLR. Published monthly, k-Byte is the official newsletter of the Front Range Personal Computer Users Group (FRPCUG): our mailing address is PMB 152, 305 W. Magnolia, Fort Collins, Colorado 80521. Opinions expressed in k-Byte are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect those of the group or its members. Publication of information in k-Byte constitutes no guarantee of accuracy. Use of any information found in this publication is at the sole risk of the user. Neither k-Byte, nor Front Range PC Users Group, nor the officers of Front Range PC Users Group, nor the editors of or contributors to k-Byte assume any liability for damages resulting from use of information in this publication. Submissions Articles, letters and short items of interest on computer-related topics are welcome and encouraged. All items submitted for publication are subject to editing. Send your contribution to the editor via e-mail attachment or submit on disk. If you have questions about a submission, please contact the editor for information. Copyright k-Byte is copyrighted ©2007 by the Front Range Personal Computer Users Group. Unless otherwise noted, other nonprofit users groups may reprint or quote from any articles appearing in k-Byte without prior permission, provided that proper author and publication credits are given and that a copy of the publication in which the article appears is sent at no cost to k-Byte at the above mailing address. User groups wishing to exchange newsletters with FRPCUG are invited to send a copy of their newsletter together with an exchange request. IBM PC, OS/2, Compaq, MS-DOS, UNIX, Windows and other trademarks occasionally mentioned in k-Byte are registered trademarks of International Business Machines, Inc., Compaq Corporation, Microsoft, Digital Research, AT&T or their owners respectively. Neither FRPCUG nor its newsletter k-Byte are connected in any way with any manufacturer or seller. Advertising Classified advertising is free to members for non-business ads. See "Trading Post" for pricing for camera-ready display ads. Charges for ad makeup from sketches, etc., are available on request. Deadline for camera-ready and classified ads is 45 days prior to the month of publication. For example, ads for the March newsletter must be submitted by January 15th. For pricing and schedules for ad design, connect to contact(at)frpcug.org. About FRPCUG FRPCUG is an independent nonprofit computer society, so incorporated with the State of Colorado and open to anyone interested in MS-DOS, Windows, or UNIX/LINUX microcomputers. Its purpose is to provide an educational and scientific forum of mutual benefit for members of the micro-computer community. FRPCUG holds a monthly meeting and conducts various special interest groups (SIGs) and seminars. Members have voting privileges, subscription to k-Byte newsletter, access to SIGs and selected seminars. Annual dues are $25 for individual/family membership ($20 for students) and $50 for corporate/group membership. by Jan Fagerholm, Assistant Editor, PC Community, Hayward, California jan-f(at)pacbell.net. http://www.pcc.org I have a confession to make. Though I am a confirmed Linux geek, I have been running Windows Vista. While I tell myself that I am preparing myself for what my clients will be running soon, a lot of the time I spend in Vista is because I like learning new stuff. I've been through the progression of Betas and have arrived at RC2, two weeks before the Microsoft freezes the code and sends it to the DVD burners. This is not a "review" of Vista as such - computer publications have been running articles on Vista for months - but rather a collection of likes and dislikes that I have gathered while using it for the last year. Don't expect objectivity here - I'm simply going to point to improvements that have stood out or "improvements" that have bit me. These are some of the things you might want to know before plunking down your hard earned plastic for Vista. On the whole, Vista will swallow the mainstream applications that you are running now. There are exceptions, but these are usually utilities and anti-malware programs that work (as the phrase goes) close to the metal. Corel Graphics Suite X3, WordPerfect X3 and Adobe Creative Suite 2 all run well on Vista (as does the ever reliable OpenOffice). Roxio Easy Media Creator 9 and Nero Burning ROM 7 fail with installer errors. Present versions of Norton SystemWorks and Executive Software Diskeeper refuse to install. McAfee ViruScan installed, but made Vista unbootable, even in Safe Mode. I had to completely reinstall Vista from scratch. Here's some of the stuff I've learned to love and hate in Vista, up close, personal and arbitrary. Nits and Picks: Picks: System Services and system monitors have been folded into Task Manager. Services are included along with processes, finally putting the running system stuff in one place. Expanded monitoring features give graphical information on these items similar to other operating systems, including who's using which process.  Removal of some sophomoric terminology, i.e. "My Documents" is replaced with, simply, "Documents", "My Computer" is replaced with "Computer", etc. The Address line in most windows displays the path, the way Macintosh OSX has done for years. Similarly, progress bars show up as a transparent overlay in the Address line like OSX. The path display is interactive, allowing you to go to any point in the path directly as an alternative to "Browse," again like OSX. The Aero theme. It's pretty, and handles transparency intelligently. By effectively fading the window title bar and frame, it makes the windows contents the focus of what you see. This is one of those small things that have a large psychological effect on concentration. But see Nits. Thumbnail previews of programs in the Task Bar when you move the cursor over them. This is particularly useful if you have several instances of a single program running. You can quickly see which one has the content you want. Mixed feelings about the changes to Security Center. While various security features are better integrated into Security Center (such as Internet Options) and they have more granularity, User Account Control is pure pain. Vista security (like Windows XP security) is both superficial and intrusive compared to Macintosh OSX or Linux. Nits: They rearranged almost everything. Too little is logical consolidation and too much of it seems serendipitous. After the Start menu (which is also changed) almost everything has been relocated and re-nested. This new organization is supposed to make things easier for the new user, but I don't see how going through more dialogs to get the same thing done is supposed to make things "easier." If you are an experienced user, you can throw away most of what you know about where things are. The Aero theme. While esthetically pleasing, it turns itself off when you run certain applications. It doesn't always come back when you exit the application. The "Flip 3D" window switcher. It's pretty, but it works just the same as Alt-Tab. You must cycle through every window to get to the one you want. This is in contrast to the XGL/Compiz window switcher in Linux, which beats Flip 3D hands down for usability. Macintosh OSX's Finder is also much more direct. Worse, when Aero breaks, so does Flip 3D. Most of the interface windows have replaced menus with simplified toolbars. They are not customizable. Many of the functions I use regularly are invisible. You can get the menus back if you fish around. (Hint - go to Control Panel/Folder Options/View tab and check "Always Show Menus"). By default, Vista enables User Account Control in the Security Center. Even if you are the only user on the computer (and thus administrator by default), User Account Control will pop up a dialog every time you (or any software you run) tries to access system areas. This results in several warning dialogs getting in your face while performing many normal actions. Worse, it blocked activation of several programs I installed, stopping the program from running or crippling it into non-activation mode. (Here's your Top Tip of the Day - you can stop this behavior by going to Control Panel/User Accounts, selecting your user account, then clicking the "Turn User Account Control on or off" link (and clicking the "Continue" button on the warning dialog this feature pops up), un-checking the "User Account Control (UAC). . ." item, then clicking "OK." A reboot is required. This will make Vista work like old-fashioned Windows XP. We are in for a sea change of hardware and software upgrades that we haven't seen since Windows XP came out. Count on upgrading most, if not all, of your anti-virus / anti-malware software, a lot of your PCI cards, and a lot of your peripherals, especially scanners. Many hardware and software manufacturers are using the impending release of Vista to drop support of a lot of their older products. Vista is almost upon us. While not a compelling upgrade from Windows XP, it is inevitable, because it will be on the next computer you buy. It has some useful and some annoying updates. The revamped interface is clearly aimed at the new user, but it makes the experienced Windows user suffer because it requires relearning of things you already know. Vista security is somewhat improved compared to Windows XP, but the fundamental problem remains that security is tacked on to the surface of the operating system, compared to OSX or Linux where security is architecturally built in. If you are considering upgrading to Vista for security reasons, save your money; spend less and get equivalent protection from security software for the proven and reliable Windows XP you are using now. Should you upgrade your present computer to Vista? That depends on your hardware and your definition of value. If your computer is more than three years old, you will not enjoy many of the glitzy new features that Vista offers. It wants a lot of CPU and graphical horsepower to run the cool visual stuff. On older hardware, you will get what Microsoft calls an "XP-like experience". Read: you will need to increase your installed RAM and upgrade your video card. While Vista will install in 512 MB of RAM, Microsoft recommends 1 GB minimum for "the best experience." You will want to invest in an upgraded video card to get to best out of Vista, though. Video RAM is important; Vista capable video cards with 128 MB of video RAM and moderate performance are available for around $50, and well worth the cost if you are moving to Vista. You will definitely want this if you are moving to Vista to freshen your desktop experience. You need it to get all the new toys working. I am not as enthusiastic about Vista as many reviewers are. I have had the benefit of experiencing most of Vista's "new" features, debugged and often better implemented on OSX and Linux. Microsoft rightly imitated these; many of them are useful and compelling. But they are not new. 
If you are a casual computer user, you will wind up with Vista on your computer sooner or later just because it will come on a new PC that you will eventually buy. If you are a computer enthusiast, you will have to decide whether it is worth both the cost of hardware upgrades and the purchase price of Vista to move into the latest and greatest that Microsoft can offer. For the short term, this will not be a painless experience; you will have to make many adjustments to the way you work and suffer several incompatibilities in both hardware and software to get into Vista. If you are a casual computer user and not certain if overcoming these problems is worth the effort, I'll offer my standard advice for new Microsoft operating systems: wait until SP1 before you take the plunge. For the adventurous, I say, "Follow me, and dodge the slings and arrows! The pain is slight, and I can endure it!" The challenge of making it work is part of the fun. And on the other end, you may find that you can eventually get some work done on the computer . . . . January General Forum Meeting We will meet at the Fort Collins Senior Center on Tuesday, January 2nd 7:00 PM Meeting Agenda: 7:00 to 7:15 Announcements 7:15 to 8:00 Open Forum 8:00 to 8:15 Break 8:15 to 9:00 PDF Authoring Tools February General Forum Meeting We will meet at the Fort Collins Senior Center on Tuesday, February 6th 7:00 PM Meeting Agenda: 7:00 to 7:15 Announcements 7:15 to 8:00 Open Forum 8:00 to 8:15 Break 8:15 to 9:00 Microsoft Vista See you at the meetings! Get full membership benefits. If you are not a current member, download an application from http://www.frpcug.org/memberap.htm Future General Forum Meeting Notes The January meeting will provide a follow up to the December "Reader" presentation, with more info on creating the PDF format. At the February meeting, Chris Russell of Data Service Center will present an overview of the new Microsoft Vista operating system. Chris is an independent (i.e., not a Microsoft employee) beta tester of the software, and is very knowledgeable about the product. Plan on attending this meeting to hear an objective evaluation of this new software. Future SIG's, Seminars, and Other Meetings New Technology SIG The New Technology SIG provides advance support for all PC related operating system and telecommunication issues. The meetings are held at 7:00 PM on the third Thursday of each month at Bluebird Manufacturing Inc., 1421 Webster Avenue, in Fort Collins. For more information, contact Chuck McJilton at 970-493-2987. Board Meeting FRPCUG's executive board meets on Wednesday of the week following the General Forum meeting. All members are welcome and are encouraged to attend. These meetings are held at 7:00 PM in the Staff Board Room of the Fort Collins Senior Center. Directions to the Fort Collins Senior Center The Fort Collins Senior Center is located at 1200 Raintree Drive. This site is situated at the northwest corner of the Shields and Raintree Drive intersection, on the north side of the Raintree Shopping Center. Check the marquee at the main entrance for directions to the specific meeting room. See map on page 12. 1 HOLIDAY-New Year's Day 2 FRPCUG General Forum Meeting 7:00 PM 10 FRPCUG Board Meeting 7:00 PM 18 New Technology SIG Meeting 7:00 PM February 2007 6 FRPCUG General Forum Meeting 7:00 PM 14 FRPCUG Board Meeting 7:00 PM 19 President's Day Holiday 22 New Technology SIG Meeting 7:00 PM by Richard Kennon, Newsletter Editor Amador Computer Users Group, California drtrdguy(at)volcano.net. http://www.acug.net The time came when the bearings in my hard drive began to sing a little after running all day. So, being the wise person I am, I decided to replace it as a preventative measure. It turns out a job like that requires planning. I am not a planning person. I don't do planning. I am more spontaneous. That is a euphemism for "lazy." My grandmother used to tell me, "Lazy people work the hardest." Oh, how true. First, I thought I was covered because I had a backup by Acronis True Image 8.0 - wrong! I had one main hard drive with one partition, "C:" and I had never dreamed of running with more than one partition. So, I bought a second hard drive to use for the backups. After the new main hard drive was installed by a professional, I brought it home and tried to restore the backup. It was then I learned you can't restore an Acronis backup to the active partition. When I tried, it wiped out everything. Back to the Pro for a new XP reload with two partitions on the new hard drive. It has gigabytes to spare. The two partitions were named "C:" and "F:" for whatever reason. The spare hard drive was renamed "D:" and the CD drive was renamed "E:". Go figure. I was able to restore my old C: drive contents to the new F: drive. So now I have everything on the new F: drive but my machine boots up on the new C: drive and I can't figure out how to utilize the new F: drive. Of course, real men don't ask directions, so I decided to slug it out on my own. I thought I saw a bright side to this as the old C: drive was cluttered with years' accumulation of garbage. I would start afresh! The first thing to do is get back on the air, the Internet. So, I went to Outlook Express. First I had to call the ISP to find out how to reconnect. A nice lady walked me through the process, no sweat. Then I discovered I had no address book. Of course, it is on the F: drive. How to find it? After some searching on the web, I found out the address book is in files named, *.wab. Cinch! Just search the F: drive for *.wab files. Not there. Then I noticed the fine print that says it does not find hidden files. A click on "Advanced" led me to a box that allows finding hidden files. It turns out the hidden files are in a hidden folder so it was doubly challenging. It was relatively easy to copy these files and paste them in the same hidden folder in the new C: drive. Whaddayu know? It worked. The message files are empty but I can't think of a good reason to try to repopulate them. Now, if I am on the air, it seems the next urgent step is to reestablish some protection. But, first, I downloaded SP-2 and a host of other Microsoft updates. I think I saw a note flash across the screen that said they sent 60 updates. Then came Microsoft Windows Defender (beta). However, apparently all it does is look for spyware. I am not clear on this so, since I subscribe to McAfee firewall and virus protection, I went to their site and downloaded all that. Now, I feel better. I did do one bit of smart planning Ta-Da! I had simply copied all my Documents and Settings files and sub folders to the backup drive. Copying all this back to the new C: drive was a cinch and it saved all my valuable writings and pictures. Now if I could just find that great picture of Aunt Edith from two Christmases ago. If you ever transfer to a new computer or hard drive, do lots of this copying. Disk space is cheap and copying it back is so easy. Finding the original software disks that were loaded years ago was not so easy. They were tucked here and there in many different convenient places. That is, convenient until you want to find them. I was mostly lucky and had to purchase a newer version of only one program. You see, I am neither a planner nor an organizer. You wonder how I have survived these many years? I am very lucky. One other aspect of "afresh" I decided to try was going to Open Office instead of Microsoft Office. This is another ungood idea. Doctors warn against experiencing dual traumas like retiring and immediately moving to a retirement community. Adding this stress to the disk change stress was probably not a good idea. Besides, Outlook Express won't use the Open Office dictionary. I did find the old MS Office disk but I decided to try this as an experiment. So far so good but there are a number of features I don't like because I am used to the other features. I will keep with it for a while In conclusion (this is what our pastor says ten minutes before the end of his sermon), you will be faced with changing computers and/or hard drives. As the weatherman and some politicians are fond of saying, "It is not if but when." I do not recommend my approach. I have spent many hours on it. Plan, plan, plan. Talk to some knowledgeable people and perhaps even search the Internet for help. Good luck. PS. I sent a copy of this to Gene Barlow who sold me the Acronis program and this is his reply: "Acronis True Image has a cloning function that will copy your entire hard drive to the replacement hard drive in one easy step. When you are done, you simply place the new drive in the place of your old c: drive and it becomes your new c: drive. This feature of True Image would have had your old hard drive replaced in just a few minutes and with one easy step. Next time you need to do something with hard drives, send me a note and I'll try to help you do it quickly and with the least work possible." Maybe the next time I will ask before! But, that would have transferred all the garbage, as well. A benefit available to dues-paid members of FRPCUG Ten Good Reasons to Subscribe to Smart Computing Magazine Free Tech Support 4 Magazines For The Price Of 1 My Personal Library Plain-English Editorial Live, Local Customer Service Interactive Q&A Board Save 70% Off The Newsstand Price (On-line only subscription available) Minimal Advertising Strict Privacy Policy Risk-Free Subscriptions Connect to http://www.smartcomputing.com for more information. To subscribe, click on User Groups in the left column of the home page, then on Subscribe or Renew Today in the left column of the subsequent page. Be certain to give FRPCUG credit-select Front Range PC Users Group from the drop down box. The current slate of officers was reelected unanimously. Congratulations to Rick Mattingly, Don Anderson, Virginia Febinger and Jim Bragonier. Thank you for your dedication and hard work this past year. Noncommercial Advertising k-Byte runs classified ads in Trading Post for three consecutive issues. Trading Post ads up to 10 lines (or 70 words) long are free to FRPCUG members and only $10 for non-members. To place an ad in Trading Post contact Rick Mattingly at 970-613-8968 or e-mail to rmatt(at)mesanetworks.net. Commercial Advertising Specifications (Per Issue) Full Page (8.5" x 11")*$50.00 Half Page (5.5" x 8.5")*$30.00 Quarter Page (4.25" x 5.5")*$20.00 Business Card (2" x 3.5")*$10.00 We offer a substantial discount for repeat ads and continuing contracts. For an additional charge we will design your ad for you. Contact Rick Mattingly for information on this service at 970-613-8968 or e-mail to rmatt(at)mesanetworks.net. *Allow for 0.5 inch margins courtesy of http://www.davebytes.com Speed up Windows XP's defrag operations. A simple way to speed up a defrag operation in Windows XP is to restart the system before you launch Defrag. This allows the operating system to clear out the swap/paging file and reset it to the default size. This lets Defrag focus strictly on the necessary data on the hard disk, without having to stop and manage a huge swap file loaded with unneeded data.  Source: http://www.mapquest.com |
FRPCUG Officers Name Work Home e-Mail
President Rick Mattingly 613-8968 rmatt(at)mesanetworks.net
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Treasurer Virginia Febinger 498-2127 gingercln(at)cs.com
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Secretary Jim Bragonier 484-9061 james.bragonier(at)comcast.net
k-Byte Staff
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Features Editor Mike Morris
Advertising Coordinator Open - We need a volunteer! Contact Rick Mattingly in interim.
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Membership Coordinator Jack Linder 663-2151 jack(at)frpcug.org
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